Honestly, the open standards internet is still there, beneath the surface. I've got my user generated content here on the #fediverse, my spoken word content in #Castamatic powered by open #RSS feeds and #Podcasting20, I read my articles in @NetNewsWire, again from regular ole RSS, and I can chat on #IRC or @matrix. It may not be the mainstream any more unfortunately, but it's still alive and going, protect it.
#NixOS / #Nixpkgs #Matrix server ‘breaks’ again? Why are we using this bloated protocol anyhow? These rooms have migrated several times, the docs never stay up-to-date, & we waste a lot of resources (storage, compute, RAM) to run this eventual-consistency protocol. But it constantly breaks? Then why fcking use it? & Why did it move to Matrix to begin with?
While I have beefs with DroneBL blocking residential IPs & being used by both Libera.Chat & OFTC, the most popular #IRC networks for software, NixOS / Nixpkgs should have stayed on IRC… or if they want the network to be decentralized & with more chat features, it should have #XMPP. Matrix doesn’t give you much but headaches. The only positive thing I have heard from anyone is that it’s nice to have a FOSS option instead of using Discord, but those 2 mature protocols were already doing that.
@defanor AFAIK there is no fully bidirectional channel<->MUC bridge, but Biboumi will allow XMPP users to join an IRC channel and will have a mostly-native feel for both sides (/whois and some channel operator things from the XMPP side are slightly awkward). It's maintained at https://codeberg.org/poezio/biboumi
I've been using it for years and even gave up irssi in favor of poezio+biboumi
You can set up a dedicated instance for your ircd and let users join via e.g. #support@irc.prosody.tld
Are there tools (ideally working and maintained) for bridging individual #IRC channels with #XMPP MUCs in such a way that every user shows up as an actual participant (the gateway acting as server/service at least on the IRC side, spawning many users efficiently), rather than a bot prefixing relayed messages with user names? Particularly for InspIRCd and Prosody (both running locally, with an ability to configure them if needed).
As a similar project's example, there is TeleServ for such a bridging between IRC and Telegram, but I am failing to find that for IRC and XMPP. It should not be hard to write from scratch, but I would guess that they should exist already.
https://blahaj.social/@leah/114322213914414565
Looking into the matrix protocol cemented that idea for me. Matrix even described as an "eventually consistent JSON store"! That is not a good thing. Something so complex is unlikely to be implemented by a single user w/o an innordinate amount of effort
#discord IS LITERALLY THE PROBLEM!
It's worse than any #IRC, #Mumble or even the old #TeamSpeak & #Skype for that matter.
It combines the disadvantages of #Forum, #paywalled #documentation, #chat and #voicechat with 0 redeeming qualities (unlike #Zulip & Mumble & #XMPP+#OMEMO) it's just an #InformationBlackhole!
I'm shure fecking #dread has better moderation and I'd rather use #MicrosoftTeams + #Slack cuz those at least have proper #moderation tools.
Case in point: I'd rather #SelfHost all my comms infrastructure than to ever use something like Discord or any other #GDPR-violating SaaS that is just enshittification.
I'd rather recommend people to instead choose a tool that does everything but horrible to go with multiple smaller & good tools
Check @alternativeto and @european_alternatives for options.
Il segretario nazionale Uaar @rgrendene commenta su @_micromega_ l’aumento degli studenti che non frequentano l’insegnamento della religione cattolica. Il calo dell'#IRC rispecchia profondi cambiamenti e il diffondersi della secolarizzazione fra i giovani, non spiegabile solo con l'aumento di studenti di origine straniera. E nonostante freni clericali come la spaccatura nelle classi e tra Nord e Sud e il clientelismo che fa dipendere il posto di insegnante dal vescovo.
https://www.micromega.net/ora-di-religione-assente-giustificata-irc-in-netto-calo
@paul_denton @off créez un canal #irc sur zeolia.chat et je m'abonne :)
We were testing #galene as an alternative to #discord video/voice-chat in online #ttrpg sessions today. (In addition to #irc as a chat that is)
It worked fine. Galene has really low ressource demands and we had multiple people in the chat on two continents with good quality video and multiple simultaneous screenshare windows at the same time.
If discord enshittifies too much I think we at least have a way to play our games.
L'Uaar ha diffuso i dati del Ministero dell'Istruzione e delle province di Trento e Bolzano sulla non frequenza dell'#IRC per l'anno scolastico 2023/24. La quota di chi non frequenta l'insegnamento della religione cattolica a #scuola sale al 16,6%.
https://www.uaar.it/dati-no-irc/
Recently, I tidied up my IRC workspace.
Are there any interesting IRC channels (including servers) that you know of, related to Linux, free software, self-hosting, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, or NetBSD?
#linux #freesoftware #selfhosting #freebsd, #openbsd, #netbsd #irc
Okay, what's the best #Discord alternative for a #chat platform, I want one for my #streamer / #vtuber community, currently using Discord but want to Own It and such. For real this time.
Is #element / #matrix still the biggest one? I guess there's #IRC, I want whatever I can get the largest non-zero number of people using. And voice chat ideally, video not necessary.
@simendsjo @jackdaniel #XMPP has all those features, and there's a fairly big #Lisp / #Scheme / #CommonLisp channel there - https://xmpp.link/#lisp@conference.a3.pm?join
It might not have everything that #Discord does, but it's vastly better than #IRC. And there's a cost to using #proprietary and #centralized services, which people constantly forget about in chasing convenience and shiny features.
Here's a guide to help you get started.
https://contrapunctus.codeberg.page/the-quick-and-easy-guide-to-xmpp.html
L'Uaar ha diffuso i dati del Ministero dell'Istruzione e delle province di Trento e Bolzano sulla non frequenza dell'#IRC per l'anno scolastico 2023/24. La quota di chi non frequenta l'insegnamento della religione cattolica a #scuola sale al 16,6%.
https://www.uaar.it/dati-no-irc/
Created in 1988 by Jarkko Oikarinen in Finland, IRC was designed to enable real-time, text-based communication over the internet. Inspired by the multi-user talk programs on UNIX systems, Oikarinen wanted a system that was more flexible and scalable.
IRC quickly became the backbone of online communities in the 90s and early 2000s, hosting discussions ranging from programming and hacking to gaming and general socializing. Unlike modern chat services, IRC was entirely decentralized—anyone could set up a server, create channels, and communicate without corporate control.
Though its popularity has declined with the rise of modern platforms, IRC still thrives among enthusiasts, open-source communities, and privacy advocates who prefer its lightweight, no-nonsense approach to online chat.
IRC, USPol shitpost
As an IRC user, I believe that so-called "Signalgate" is evidence that emoji reactions should not be used on any important communication.
If the Trump Administration had used IRC, then the journalist in their chat would not have been able to access all their messages: he would only have seen those sent while he was online. Instead, they used Signal, which has chat history, allowing the journalist to see their entire conversation.
So why didn't they use IRC? Obviously, it's because they wanted Emoji reactions. Everyone who uses Signal instead of IRC does it because they want Emoji reactions. There is no other conceivable reason that anyone would ever choose a non-IRC messaging platform, since Emoji reactions are the only feature IRC lacks. Anyone who tells you they chose Signal for a different reason is lying.
The Trump administration put a higher value on emoji reactions than they did not journalists not being able to see their communication.
#IRC
Chi non segue l'insegnamento della religione cattolica a #scuola spesso viene definito in maniera negativa sui giornali, con richiami alla fuga e all'abbandono o con etichette come "esonerato", "disertore" e persino "negazionista".
Ma l'#Irc non un obbligo e non avvalersene è un diritto.
https://blog.uaar.it/2025/01/29/esonerato-sara-lei/