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@bluberrycookie
Sara Kuburic has a point. But speaking the truth to the victims of narcissists will generally end their relationship with you rather than with the narcissist.

@Kruku one might add that there are no 'healthy relationships' in the real world, only the imperfect ones we have to work very hard on at all times

@Kruku whoever good old Sarah was or is :))))

@Kruku and of course, the concept of truth remains as relative as ever;)

@Leilani_
I take your point but up is not down & black is not white.

@Kruku when it comes to 'up', it can in fact be 'down' relative to something placed above it ;), comparisons and judgments are always relatively, it seems

@Leilani_
You are using semantics to debate without addressing issues.